Does PT3 support satellites?

[Bimbyris]

I imported a couple of rebuy satellites from PokerStars (both hand histories and summaries). However, rebuys and addons ar not included in the total buy-in amount and Amount Won is always 0$.

So, should it import everything correctly and it's an issue of mine? Or PT3 isn't able at the moment to import the results of satellites automatically ?

[WhiteRider]

Pokerstars does not write tournament summaries automatically - please see the Tournaments FAQ.

[Bimbyris]

Pokerstars does not write tournament summaries automatically - please see the Tournaments FAQ.

I understand this, i have imported summaries from the email. What i mean "automatically" is that PT3 imports results correctly from summary file and i don't have to do this manually. Sunday Million results were imported okay for example, but few stats of rebuy satellites are incorrect. Specifically Total buy-in Amount and Amount Won are inaccurate, others seem to be fine.

[WhiteRider]

I don't think that the value of the satellite seat is recorded, it just records that you won a seat.
Would you expect PT3 to record the value of the seat you won? Would you then also like it to record it as a satellite seat win?
We've had a few requests for different behaviour, so please feel free to explain how you would like it to work and I will pass on your comments.
Is the information about your rebuys in the summary information that you receive by email?
Please attach a few of these summaries to a ticket on our Support system , and link to this thread in the reference field of the ticket so that we can investigate.

[Sparkatze]

i have a different but similar problem.

example: tournament/satellite game (for example 25 + 2 USD buyin) for which i've won a satellite ticket.
if lose now, i have a net won amount of -27 USD in PT3
if i correct manually the buy and rake to 0 USD (to get a net amount of 0), the tournament becomes basically a freerole with 0 buyin.
that's not ok. i still want to keep a 27 USD tournament in my history.

in PT2, it was possible to manipulate the total buyin. Therefore, i can keep the 25 + 2 USD and modify the total buyin to 0.
with that, i keep the original buyin for my history, but i put the actual buyin to zero (cause i've won the ticket) and have no lose at the net amount.

is that possible to add to PT3 as it is in PT2?
best regards

[kraada]

You can't modify it in that fashion in PT3. If you modify the satellite you played in to make sure it has a $27 win though your net results will be the same. I know PT3 gets the satellite wins for FTP, we're looking into why it's not working 100% properly at PokerStars.

[azarembok]

Has this ever been resolved?

I just imported a database containing about 1700 tournament summaries from PT2. It appears that for every tournament where I had edited the "actual buy-in" in PT2, this information is now lost, so my totals for net winnings are off by a lot.

There seems to be no way to adjust this manually. Checking the "satellite seat" box as suggested in another thread does not seem to change the net winnings. And even if I could adjust it manually, how would I go about finding all of the tournaments that need adjusting, from the 1700 in my database?

[WhiteRider]

PT2 does not export manually entered results information so there's nothing for PT3 to import in that case.
If you want to overwrite the net winnings in the Tournaments > Enter Results window you can select your name and change the amount won. The satellite seat checkbox just records that you won a seat, it doens't cancel your prize money.

[azarembok]

Thanks for the response. I still think it would be valuable to have an "actual buy-in" amount separate from the tournament buy-in, just like PT2 had. This would make it possible to track the level of the tournament that you played in, while still keeping an accurate record of how much real money was won/lost.

[StdDeviant]

You're getting some misinformed responses here, at least as far as PokerStars is concerned. You can manually enter your rebuys and add-ons; I do it all the time. You have to go to Tournaments menu, select Enter Holdem Results (the only choice on that menu), find the tournaments (I like to single click on Start Time header, which sorts them in reverse order so the most recent tourneys are at the top). For each satellite you played, click on it in top section, then find your name in bottom section...if there are a lot of players, easier to click Player heading twice, which sorts them alphabetically, and find your name. Click on your name, then update these four fields at the right of the window: Rebuys, Amt Rebuys, Add-ons, and Amt Add-ons. Then click Save. You have to do this for any rebuy/addon tourney, satellite or not. Unfortunately there is no way for PokerTracker to pick up all the rebuys and add-ons for PokerStars because these data are not included in the tournament summary emails, and only some of the rebuys are shown in the hand histories (those that are will be picked up by PokerTracker, which is why you'll sometimes find some rebuy costs listed, sometimes not, and it's often understating the amounts). If you rebuy prior to the first hand being dealt or in between hands, those lines are not included in the PokerStars hand histories, nor are the add-ons that are done during the break (which again is in between hands) so it's not included in the HH email either.

I share the earlier poster's frustration about the poor migration from PT2 to PT3. I have hundreds of hours invested in keeping my records current over the years in PT2. Now that's all down the drain. Really poor migration planning. We should have been able to export/import that data, but such was not the case, so unless you want to go back and re-enter everything, it's gone. I had invested a lot of time creating new categories for various types of tournaments, satellites, etc. and coding each day's tournaments accordingly. Most were rebuy/addon tourneys, so I recorded that data as well. It was extremely useful to me in analyzing my results by the various formats, buy-ins, etc. and figuring out which I should play, which I shouldn't, and where I might need to adjust my strategies. Now that's all down the drain. I am not a happy camper. It's almost unheard of for a company to release a major upgrade to their product, announce the discontuance of support for the previous version, and not have even basic migration tools in place to allow the customer to move their data from the old version to the new. You expect more data with the new product, not less, and you don't expect to have to abandon some key data you captured in the previous product. This was very poorly thought out and planned.