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bet when missed cbet turn

Postby Asimov666 » Mon Aug 03, 2009 5:10 pm

Anyone has this Statistic "bet when missed cbet turn". Its very useful but i coudn't find it.

Thanks.
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Re: bet when missed cbet turn

Postby kraada » Mon Aug 03, 2009 5:19 pm

I don't have a stat by that name but if you could specify what situations you want to be included I'd be more than happy to help you build it.
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Re: bet when missed cbet turn

Postby jack4you » Mon Aug 03, 2009 5:27 pm

What are you asking about? Are you asking for a stat that says how often they cbet on the flop when they still don't have a pair of anything?
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Re: bet when missed cbet turn

Postby Asimov666 » Mon Aug 03, 2009 5:35 pm

This Statistic is similar to the Probe Bet that it can be found on the Repository of Statistics ("Shows how often your opponent bets the flop, if the Preflop Raiser doesnt make a contibet") but on the turn.

It would be something like this: "How many times or how often your opponents bets the turn when you donk make a Continuation Bet on the Turn". This is useful to identify players who likes floating , choose lines of check-raising the turn against these players and so on.
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Re: bet when missed cbet turn

Postby kraada » Mon Aug 03, 2009 5:39 pm

Just to make sure: you want a stat that tells you how often someone bets out on the river when they face an opponent who could have but did not cbet the turn?
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Re: bet when missed cbet turn

Postby Asimov666 » Mon Aug 03, 2009 5:49 pm

kraada wrote:Just to make sure: you want a stat that tells you how often someone bets out on the river when they face an opponent who could have but did not cbet the turn?


That would be nice too.

But maybe i missed something, i'm talking about an opponent in position (IP) who bets the turn when we didnt make a continuation bet on the turn.

By the way, you guys reply almost immediately, great support XD.
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Re: bet when missed cbet turn

Postby Asimov666 » Mon Aug 03, 2009 6:10 pm

Just to add. Many friends of mine use HM (but i prefer PT3 :) ) and they have by default a complete list of these statistics. Here i list the ones i'm talking about.

Bet Vs Missed Cbet In Position: How Often Villain bets when the Preflop Raiser doesn’t cbet and Villain is in Position based on flop, turn and river. This only applies where the villain is last to act so say in a multiway pot the PFR dosent Cbet and your next to act but theres still 1 player to act after you then if you bet the stat would remain unaffected however if the person acting last bets then it would effect hes stat.

Bet Vs Missed Flop Cbet In Position: How Often Villain bets when the Preflop Raiser doesn’t cbet the flop and Villain is in Position

Bet Vs Missed Turn Cbet In Position: How Often Villain bets when the Preflop Raiser doesn’t cbet the turn and Villain is in Position

Bet Vs Missed River Cbet In Position: How Often Villain bets when the Preflop Raiser doesn’t cbet the river and Villain is in Position

Bet Vs Missed Cbet Out Of Position: Where you bet when someone didnt cbet bet the last street in position. Obviously only applies to the turn or river.

Bet Vs Missed Flop Cbet Out Of Position: Where you bet the turn when someone didnt cbet bet the flop in position.

Bet Vs Missed Turn Cbet Out Of Position: Where you bet the river when someone didnt cbet bet the turn in position.

All of them are very interesting. I'm looking for something to do the same them on PT3.
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Re: bet when missed cbet turn

Postby kraada » Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:20 am

"Bet Vs Missed Flop Cbet In Position" is available in my HUD as Float Flop.

The others would need to be built using our custom statistics engine. See the Custom Stats and Reports FAQ as well as the Custom Stats guide on our documentation page for explanations as to how to build custom statistics.
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Re: bet when missed cbet turn

Postby Asimov666 » Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:19 am

kraada wrote:"Bet Vs Missed Flop Cbet In Position" is available in my HUD as Float Flop.


I thought that Float means that villian in fact called the cbet, but in this case its when no cbet was made. ¿Is there a Web Page where i can find the official definitions to the all available stats of PT3?

kraada wrote:The others would need to be built using our custom statistics engine. See the Custom Stats and Reports FAQ as well as the Custom Stats guide on our documentation page for explanations as to how to build custom statistics.


I dont have the knowledge to make this kind of stuff. I could pay for them if you guys can make them, specially the following:

Bet Vs Missed Flop Cbet In Position
Bet Vs Missed Turn Cbet In Position
Bet Vs Missed River Cbet In Position
Bet Vs Missed Flop Cbet Out Of Position
Bet Vs Missed Turn Cbet Out Of Position

The "Bet Vs Missed Cbet Out Of Position" is irrelevant for me.
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Re: bet when missed cbet turn

Postby kraada » Tue Aug 04, 2009 12:21 pm

I'll put them on my list of stats to get to, though I don't know exactly when I'll have a chance to get them done for you.
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