Difference about Fold to Turn Bet / Fold Turn / Fold Turn% ?

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Difference about Fold to Turn Bet / Fold Turn / Fold Turn% ?

Postby hellachow » Tue May 18, 2010 9:36 am

Hi
Does anyone knows the difference between some very similar stats : [ img ]
Here's their name in PT3 :
- Fold to Turn Bet : 92
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- Fold Turn : 60
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- Fold Turn % : 39
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What the heck is this ? :) Why don't I have the same figures ? What's their definition ?
(please don't tell me to go & see the Statistical Reference Guide cause 1) it's far from being comprehensive and it's not mentionned in it, and 2) you didn't check it haha :lol: )
Thanks to anyone who can help cause what's the use of figures you don't know where they come from and you can't trust when they're all different. Is there one reliable ? If only they were close to each other...
May be some of you start to doubt about what they use lol :o
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Re: Difference about Fold to Turn Bet / Fold Turn / Fold Turn% ?

Postby kraada » Tue May 18, 2010 10:45 am

For all streets X:

Fold to X Bet is how often a player folds when facing a bet on the street in question. Note that this is exactly a bet - not a raise.

Fold X is how often a player folds the street in question given that they see it.

Fold X % how often a player's action on the street in question is a fold.

Some examples, for the flop version:

You're in position on the flop, face a bet and fold. All 3 stats show 100% (1/1).

You're out of position on the flop, check, face a bet, and then fold. Fold to F Bet and Fold Flop both show 100% (1/1), Fold Flop % now shows 50% (1/2) - you made two flop actions, check and fold.

You're in position on the flop and the flop checks through. Fold to F bet is NA (0/0) as you didn't face a bet. Fold Flop shows 0% (0/1) as you saw a flop and did not fold. Fold Flop % shows 0% (0/1) as you have made one action and it was not to fold.

You're in position on the flop, and before it's your turn to act you face a bet and a raise, you call, the pot is reraised and you call all-in. Fold to F bet is NA (0/0) as you faced only a raise not a bet. Fold Flop shows 0% (0/1) as you've seen one flop and did not fold. Fold Flop % shows 0% (0/2) as you made two actions, neither of which was a fold.

I hope that clears things up for you.
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Re: Difference about Fold to Turn Bet / Fold Turn / Fold Turn% ?

Postby hellachow » Tue May 18, 2010 11:06 am

yes kraada, thank you for your explanation on this subbtle point of views.
It's now very clear and now I know which one I want to use ;)
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Re: Difference about Fold to Turn Bet / Fold Turn / Fold Turn% ?

Postby kraada » Tue May 18, 2010 12:32 pm

You're welcome :)
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