display allin ev

[svensk]

In graph, how accurate is the display allin ev graph? Over 170k hands i am 316 buy in below "expected" to winn. I play on Boss full ring NL, can the huge difference have something to do with i cant se my opponents cards when showdown?

[WhiteRider]

Yes, that's the problem at Boss. PT3 has been changed now so that EV is not calculated for sites which don't include mucked cards in the hand histories.

[Tolp]

I also play on the Boss Media network.
I understand that there can't be a ev graph for allins, when villians mucked cards are not included in the hand history. But is there an option to display a ev graph for all allins when my and villians hands are shown? (Instead of going allin I try to make my last bet/raise one big blind smaller than villians stack, so I can see his cards, if he chooses to go allin.) Such an option would be nice and (while not perfect) at least better than having no ev graph at all.

[kraada]

You can display your EV for all-in situations by checking the appropriate box on the Graphs tab. For any hand that wasn't all in, the graph won't change - see the FAQ: EV Graphs for more details.

[Tolp]

Thx for your reply, kradaa.
But as stated in this thread PT 3 doesn't calculate EV for sites which don't include mucked cards in the hand histories (like Boss Media). What I'm asking is, if it's possible to calculate the EV for Boss Media hands, which went to showdown and are known to PT 3, because they are written in the hand history. When villian ships and I call I'll always see his cards at showdown, regardless of the outcome. It should be possible to calculate the EV for all such hands. I know a huge part of allins would be missing (just because PT doesn't know the hole cards of all players involved), but at least I would get an idea how I run in the spots where all information is available to PT. That would better than nothing, imho.

[WhiteRider]

No, that isn't possible – viewing EV like that will skew your results, which is why it was removed for sites like this.

[Tolp]

Thx for your answer.
True, I won't find out my overall EV that way (I know this is impossible for Boss Media), but it would be nice to see how I ran in hands where all information is avaiable to PT. I hoped there would be some way to find out my EV for all these hands (with a report or filter or so). After all it should be possible to calculate the exact EV for exactly such hands, (well, at least I guess so). I'm aware the information I get out of such a report is very limited, so it's no big deal not being able to get it (because it would only show the EV for about 20%-30% of my allins or so), but it would've been nice anyway.
Sometimes I hate playing on my local Boss Media site, no tournament hud (well that will change eventually), no ev graph, but there are so many fish on the site I can't quit playing there ;-)

[kraada]

You can get closer though using our Filters system. If you filter for hands that went to showdown, at Boss and where you were all in preflop or on the flop, that should get you closer to the group of hands that you're looking for.

[Darvini]

A related question: Is it possible to get a EV stat to HUD? At the moment there is stat like bb/100 showing villains profit, but Im not really interested in their actual result but more about how good they got their money in ie. a stat telling me how good the villain is.

[kraada]

That's not possible at this point in time as the data is not currently stored within the database and is calculated on demand.