Live Hud Stats

[COKE_MAN]

Quick question on the use of these. I understand the logic. Understand how to build them. One thing I am unclear on is their use in the HUD...

Table stats: How should we add those? I want these to just show on the table, but I do not want them averaged. If I add, for example, a live table stat like: Table - Players per Flop, will this be shown correctly? What if I try to build my own for something like Table VPIP? Does these go in the HUD as a Table Average group?

Player Stats: These seem straightforward, just want to be clear. A live player stat would be added for each player (or hero as the case my be) just like a "normal" stat, just calculated on the last X hands. Correct?

My main issue is understanding the Live Table stats. Adding it as Table Average seems to be what is intended, I just want to be sure and not end up with some kind of weird average of an average.

And speaking of a Table VPIP, before I reinvent the wheel, has anyone built one of these with the new live stats? The Avg table VPIP, is about useless, but better than nothing. The new live players-per-flop is a decent surrogate, but I am looking for something a bit more accurate

Thanks

[kraada]

The Live Table stats won't average when you put them in a Table Averages group - that's where they're intended to go. There's only one table average value for players to the flop. Think about it like this - at the table there is only one value for "how many players have seen the pot recently" - so averaging it for the one table doesn't make any difference as x/1 = x for all x.

The live player stats are calculated based on the data at the end of the last hand they're not for data over the last X hands for any X you specify. Can you go a bit more into what you want to do with VP$IP?

[COKE_MAN]

The Live Table stats won't average when you put them in a Table Averages group - that's where they're intended to go. There's only one table average value for players to the flop.

Thanks, that answers my "where to put it" question.... :)

The live player stats are calculated based on the data at the end of the last hand they're not for data over the last X hands for any X you specify.

Right. I mixed up the player and table definitions when I typed that and was thinking the player had a 0-9 index. No worries.

Can you go a bit more into what you want to do with VP$IP?

I was just looking for something similar to how Stars calculated the VPIP when you chose to show that in their lobby. It would be similar to the existing players per flop stat (PPF), except PPF counts ANY player that sees the flop. So a checked blind will push this value up a bit. Table VPIP would only count players who saw a flop by voluntarily putting money in. Given the way you have defined the stat that is already there for PPF, it might be such a slight difference as to not really be worth it. Just something I was toying with. Kinda nice to have an eye on how loose the table is playing. Although I find lately that I just look around and see if I have 2 fish or 1 whale and just play. ;)

[WhiteRider]

I was just looking for something similar to how Stars calculated the VPIP when you chose to show that in their lobby. It would be similar to the existing players per flop stat (PPF), except PPF counts ANY player that sees the flop. So a checked blind will push this value up a bit. Table VPIP would only count players who saw a flop by voluntarily putting money in.

This isn't currently possible - the Live Stats only record certain information as this is done outside the database structure (just for use in the HUD) so everything has to be added manually (by the development team) and adds CPU and memory usage. It is possible that we will add more options to the live stats mechanism in the future, but I don't know of any plans yet.

[tarix]

I was just looking for something similar to how Stars calculated the VPIP when you chose to show that in their lobby. It would be similar to the existing players per flop stat (PPF), except PPF counts ANY player that sees the flop. So a checked blind will push this value up a bit. Table VPIP would only count players who saw a flop by voluntarily putting money in. Given the way you have defined the stat that is already there for PPF, it might be such a slight difference as to not really be worth it. Just something I was toying with. Kinda nice to have an eye on how loose the table is playing. Although I find lately that I just look around and see if I have 2 fish or 1 whale and just play. ;)

In the future these will behave more like all of the other stats and you will be able to calculate values such as this. We definitely want you to be able to make a stat that sums up the idea of: "Should I stay on this table or find a new one."